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There is nothing wrong with Innocent Fascination on the subject of World War 2 German History.

I personally collect artifacts, historical items, and propaganda posters and such, I also perform in war reenactments and am a volunteer in a group that strives to preserve all history , whether it be the enemy's or the victor's.

I've always been fascinated by Nazi history because not only was my family a part of it, but because much of it is so shrouded in controversy and distaste, that people are most of the time ignorant of the truth.

There WERE gay nazi soldiers.

Himmler was on a grander scale worse than Hitler in the 'crazy' department.

They were the prime creators of the Volkswagen. (you'd be surprised how many people don't know that)

Despite the atrocious ills that they commited upon humanity and the world, they had successfully pulled their country from a detrimental and lethal depression, and became close to a superpower nearly overnight.

Despite the atrocious ills they committed upon twins and children, the Medical studies that were produced greatly aided the world.


What many people don't know.

Germany wasn't the only one who had Concentration camps. The United States created many for Japanese American citizens after Pearl Harbor, while they did not exterminate, they were brutal and heinously vile towards the people within them.

Germany was damn close to creating the atomic bomb before the United States.

Their studies helped create the fighter planes that we have today.


I just wish people would remember that it wasn't the Nazi grunts who were evil, but the people at the puppet strings. But hell, I'm the kind of person who will sympathize with any enemy I hold.

I greatly respected my enemy in the Iraq War, because they were fighting for something they believed wholly in. That, I can't help but admire.




HOWEVER.

What I do hate are neo-nazis, you know, the ones who are absolutely fucking disgusting. I don't think they realize that Hitler would probably find them severely repulsive. Severely so. In all honesty, half of them look like overgrown, inbred babies.

THere is a difference with fascination with the History, and fascination with being a dumbfuck.
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tabbi1994 Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
Oh My God Thank You. Even my sister says I love Hitler just because i'm totally interested in the thrid reich and ww2 in genral. I don't live hitler, my god why should I. What this man did was horrible, but he also had a interesting personality and history.
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PGOSHoundoom Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2014
I love history, And Iv'e always wanted something from WW2 times...
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NlKlTA Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2014  Student Writer
It's annoying when you have to type every disclaimer that you're not a neo-nazi. If you don't, then you have a whole butthurt fleet.
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Flying-Dutchmann Featured By Owner Edited Dec 18, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
Some people I know think that because I think Germany is a great country (They've come a LONG way from WW2), it automatically means I like Hitler.
Oh yes, me, where my family's native country was invaded on his command, where a good number of my family members helped out in th Resistance.
Oh yes, me, a Nazi -_-
(But seriously, it vexes me how some people jump to conclusions too much)
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SythraNightshade Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It always start with 'innocent fascination' and then suddenly you end up in jail. Well as long as people don't post propaganda with swakistas and other similar symbols everything is all right, I guess.

Propaganda is illegal here.
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DaBair Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I hate neo-Nazis too. It's a disgrace.

Russian neo-Nazis should be fucking ashamed of their fucking selves.
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ComannderrX Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2014
me too
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Some-strange-folk Featured By Owner Feb 19, 2014
You forgot about the Nazi Blitzkrieg tactic we use in the American military today.
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Kegger98 Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2014
But do the ends justify the means?
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BlackbirdRedshield Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2013

This reminds me of the time I said something about how many soldiers followed Hitler because they thought they could make the world and their country better AND that some of their (atrocious) experiments were meant to help humanity (though they went about it wrong). In a Holocaust museum. I got glared at as if I were Hitler himself for the rest of the day.

 

It doesn't help that my mom and stepdad know I'm into researching Nazi military leaders. (And my stepdad's personal creed seems to be "FUCK THE NAZIS" because he once dated a Jewish girl.)

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Flying-Dutchmann Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
I know how you feel 
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Triphon Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2013
When I look at the nazis, I can conclude that human stupidity is quite fascinating indeed.
The more I look at them the more I wonder how such grotesque murderous clowns got 40% of the German votes!

PS: Any prisonner from Auschwitz/Birkenau/Dachau/Buchenwaldwould have done anything to exchange his/her place with an American camp's Japanese inmate. Even without the factories' sabotage, Germany's ressources would have never been enough to make the A bomb before the end of war, a large amount of Germany's brightest scientists fled their country when the nazis arrived (so long for scientific advance). And I'd like some facts about the true medical advances made only from tortured "patients".

BTW I'm part German. And as much as I know that the "Nazi grunts" were normal human beings (hell, even Himmler was a happy fella at times!), I also know that loving their family, playing Mozart or singing Schubert didn't prevent them from raping women, shooting children and looting and burning villages all across Europe. I wouldn't wish anyone to fall into the hands of these "humans".
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Adam-Walker Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2013   Writer
I think that sometimes humanity can be interesting especially with the Nazis as well as war criminals, communists, dictators and what have you.
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Adam-Walker Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2013   Writer
I agree there's nothing wrong with interest in the Nazis. In fact I've drawn two leaders of it.
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Reznov1941 Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2013  Student Writer
Also God forbid that GOBBELS!ONE OF HITLER'S MOST LOYAL MEN WAS HANDICAPED AND THAT IS NEVER SAID!
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Flying-Dutchmann Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
(Whenever I think of Goebbels, I think of a tiny little man with a big mouth.. which I find a little humorous)
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Reznov1941 Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2013  Student Writer
I hate it when people think of Hitler as a Phsyco!He was a Human being.Evil yes but was also kind and loving.
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Flying-Dutchmann Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
Hitler was a genius, but a crazy, mad broken genius.
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Reznov1941 Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2014  Student Writer
Well,not really.He was cocky if anything.
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Flying-Dutchmann Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
True that.
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Reznov1941 Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2014  Student Writer
If only he had directed his forces on to the Soviet Unions oil fields.
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Flying-Dutchmann Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
Yep- but thank God he didn't.
(We might of lost a crucial part)
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Reznov1941 Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2014  Student Writer
By crucial you mean 86% of the Soviet Oil Supply. Add in that the Volga was the trade route of Turkish oil and that is almost all of the oil supply of the Soviet Union.
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Flying-Dutchmann Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
Yes. (You sir, are very smart.)
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silly-orange Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2013
true!
thank you.
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White-Knuckles Featured By Owner May 29, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
There is nothing wrong with innocent FASCination. Haha epic win! lol
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BIazekien Featured By Owner May 22, 2013
I'm find the concept if blitzkrieg very intresting.
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Flying-Dutchmann Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
I do too!
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ELISA-TODAY Featured By Owner Apr 27, 2013  Student General Artist
I agree! It's good be open minded and learn new things!
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TheBurningHand Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2013  Student General Artist
So true! Being interested in the history is NOT bad!
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Tounushifan Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2013
Yes!
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vladstronsy Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012  Student Digital Artist
The Nazi party nearly conquered the world, despite the entire tyrannical genocide complex, I think everyone should look at how they almost did it and how close they came to actually doing it. Along with how the allies won. Fantastic history.
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MadnessAndCrazy Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012  Student Artist
I'm actually very interested about learning about World War 2. Some people find it odd but others think I'm smart because of how young I am and wanting to learn history.
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Lewdster Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I agree. I like Nazis as villains and their sometimes even crazed devotion to their cause is intriguing. Hitler and the Third Reich are the closest thing for a real-life supervillain and an evil empire which is why it should be okay to be interested in them. After all, no one shuns you for liking Darth Vader and the Galactic Empire (with the exception of the Jedis :D). I also like the Nazi march songs, they're cool. Then again, I think the German language itself sounds cool.
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FrauleinBest Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you :D
I agree on this, this time in history is so fascinating
and it's a time in history when idea's was taken from
like millitary wise,Medical,planes ect.....
Also this was a war where no one was good not one country...
After the United States gobbled up California and half of Mexico, and we were stripped down to nothing, territorial expansion suddenly becomes a crime. It's been going on for centuries, and it will still go on..... Hermann Göring
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theSaltShaker Featured By Owner May 24, 2012
What interests me about them is how much you can water down the imagery and still have it pack a punch to the gut.

In one scene in a movie I saw a while ago, the bad guy chased some people into a farmhouse and ordered a soldier to set it on fire to drive them out (or worse). I felt like someone had kicked me in the gut... and then remembered something I'd seen even earlier. The introduction to a TV miniseries about the Holocaust had included a brief clip of a similar atrocity.

In show business, they say the strength of the villain is the strength of your story. May the original evil insanity never be repeated... even if the themes and images do continue to flash darkly in our art and culture for a long time to come.
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star3catcher Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2012
Exactly.

I personally have a fascination with serial killers. :P When I tell people that, they look at me like I am one. One guy I even told spread a rumor around school that I wanted to be a murderer or something.
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Foedus-Stamps Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2012
I did too. I used to be able to list facts about every single one from the 1980s on.

Needless to say I didn't have a very good social life XD
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Blaise-Katzchen Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2012  Student General Artist
:)
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charmsheart0559 Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2012   Writer
agreed.
I wouldn't call mine innocent, and I disagree with many predjudices of orginial Nazi-ology,
but I am a WWII geek, and proudly so.
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SpazzJazz Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2012
Thank you!

Honestly I find WW2 one of the most fascinating times of our history, because there was no good guy- sure, there were good GUYS, but no one side was completely holy. In war stories they always have one side seem like the antogonist or whatever and if you're on this otheer side you're completely immoral and wrong and you'll be punished and all that.

I do find Hitler to be interesting too, like how he used to be a painter in Austria, and because of all the injustice towards Germany in WW1, WW2 was started. (I also find it funny that Germany was trying to remove non-aryans(SP?) but Hitler himself wasn't aryan OR German)

Neonazis make me laugh at their stupidity.

A lot of Nazis were forced to join- my friend's great- grandma or grandma(I can't remember which) was forced to join.

Oh, and do you know about Hetalia? Well if you don't it's personified forms of the countries and I wore my Russia cosplay outift to school and I was called a Nazi....how does that work?
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ComannderrX Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2014
how does dressing like a Russian make you a Nazi?
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Foedus-Stamps Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2012
Yeah, I know. But god forbid if you show interest in the opposite side nowadays People will vomit at the mouth and dribble out the stupidest crap.

I get the same thing when I'm cosplaying Major Ocelot from Metal Gear. Either they think I'm from Hetalia, or they think I'm a Nazi.
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SpazzJazz Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2012
I looked up Major Ocelot- he looks quite similar to Germany...just more of a BAMF
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Reznov1941 Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2013  Student Writer
I hate how the Nazi's had to use cool stuff so no one could use them anymore.Like the Chaplin stache,Uniform,Salute,and amazing army songs.
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Mafia-Queen Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2012  Student Photographer
i TOTALLY agree!
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PavelZakarovRomanov Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
agreed. people only look to the 'bad; side becasue they're afriad of being judged by the rest of the world.
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10outof13doctors Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2012
I want to shove this stamp and artist's comment in the face of most people I know ;w;
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Schwarznebel Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I-support-this-stamp
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Excalibur-T005 Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2012
One really disturbing thing I once read only concerned Nazi Germany indirectly - it was a memo of sorts between American "scientists" in the 1930s, essentially complaining that the Germans were beating them at their own game. Many American corporations - IBM, for example - were involved in setting up the infrastructure that would later be used to kill millions of people, yet when the war was over, things like that, our own concentration camps, and even the killings carried out by Stalin's USSR were all swept under the rug.

What I find just as frustrating as the Neo-Nazis are those who hold onto Stalin's cult of personality, claiming that "Uncle Joe" was a wholly benevolent ruler - like Hitler, he was effective at rapidly industrializing a nation, but the Stalinists are denying even more murders than the Neo-Nazis.
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